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Strict Soldier's guide for MvM: Pyro by Menaria Strict Soldier's guide for MvM: Pyro by Menaria
Look's like somebody decided to disturb Strict's training! Who it might be?

Also big thanks to :iconshadowtoky86: and her bf for correcting my grammar and :icontfsoldier: for putting some life into dialogues.

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:iconthelakotanoid1:
thelakotanoid1 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015  Hobbyist
i go hellfire phlog pyro ^^
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:iconjackal2245:
Jackal2245 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2015  New member Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have access to both sets but I prefer party pyro because I cant air blast very well ;(
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:iconthattf2guy:
ThatTF2Guy Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2014
HUDDA!!!! (SIR!!) hudahmgphlh (for pusher pyro is stock better or is the rainblower better?) Hudda!
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconstrictsoldierplz: Technically there is no difference, but stock doesn't cover half of your view like Rainblower do!!
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:iconthattf2guy:
ThatTF2Guy Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2014
HUDAPH (Thank you sir)
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:iconsilverforfun:
Silverforfun Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2014
When you said the Neon was better then the Homewrecker, I was about to say...
But then I realized you were expecting milk scouts
I play free MvM most of the time
Pistol scouts
Pistol scouts everywhere
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:iconsupersaiyanheavy:
supersaiyanheavy Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014
Thing is though, as a personal taste, I prefer the Third Degree on my MVM Pyro; having crit canteens and full swing speed, I can attack both the bot the medic's healing, while dropping an uber. Granted, I understand why the Neon Annihilator is a superior choice, though every time I play MVM nowadays, when I pick pyro, my teammates always threaten to kick me. regardless, I think at the very core of it, Pyro melee weps doesn't really matter anyway since a good player knows where the ammo packs are, and there is usually a lvl3 dispenser around.
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:iconthesoldierinvietnam:
TheSoldierInVietnam Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Student Digital Artist
THE SOLDIER IS A MAGGOT !
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:iconrainbowstr8ghtjacket:
RainbowStr8ghtJacket Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
MUST...GET...MORE...PAPER I've got too much work to do.  mustn't sleeeep :sleepy: 
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:iconmrcrazyguy:
MrCrazyGuy Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh snap!We in for a party! :D
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:iconcarlfoxmarten:
carlfoxmarten Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2013
Great guide so far! =^.^=

Needs navigation links, though.
(especially a link to the first installment, so people happening upon it in the middle can start over and get the whole story)
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:iconkbxcn:
KBXCN Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2013
These are great, I wonder who it could be...
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:iconapplejackforever:
applejackforever Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2013
i think the upgrades in burn time would be better invested in uber canteens
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:iconapplejackforever:
applejackforever Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
By the way, before anyone mentions it.
Third degree is not good for removing multiple medics.
the damage does NOT kill them immediately, they will just pop uber.
This also wouldnt work without a crit canteen so if you do it you face an angry ubered giant without mercy without having an uber canteen since you had to use a crit canteen. You die. for nothing.
If you see that there are no spies on the wave you can probably use the axtinguisher. But ONLY on this one wave.
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconstrictsoldierplz: I approve this comment!
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:iconapplejackforever:
applejackforever Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
Cool, the first of probably 20 comments which is approved XD.
On !lowest! difficulty always the sharpened volcano fragment because it looks cool :)
(srsly now this weapon is completely pointless)
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:iconapplejackforever:
applejackforever Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
i would take the homewrecker over the neon anihilator, it deals with sappers a lot easier, and the damage is definetly lower than from the phlog, and the support pyro shouldnt try to meele in the first place. BUT against steel gauntlets i would probably take it.
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:iconmonsterman25:
MonsterMan25 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
what I'd like to know is what about the secondary weapon? do I take a flare gun or a manmelter?
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:iconapplejackforever:
applejackforever Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013
take the flaregun. if you have the push upgrades on stock and the damage on phlog, this lets you deal some dmg in waves where yyou cant run in and burn things. and against giant heavies it is your only source of damage. having crits on every hit there is definetly not a bad thing.
there are also not pyros on every mission, so the manmelter is kinda pointless.
the flare gun is also a nice weapon against snipers
(btw firing speed and reload speed upgrades on the flaregun is the exact same thing, and it also stacks)
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:iconmonsterman25:
MonsterMan25 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ol strict told me the best is the Scorch Shot, pushback and explodes to ignite multiple bots, so I'll go with that, with my phlog and the neon :D
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:iconapplejackforever:
applejackforever Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013
theres not really a rule to that, some say the pushback is to weak to be of use, some love it.
thats more a matter of preferance and personally i like to deal at least some damage to the big heavies.
and really, if you dont use it to bash steel gauntlets (which i still think isnt a good idea) the homewrecker is a better choice since it removes sappers in one hit
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DearMrUnicorn Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
Why is the homewrecker better at dealing with sappers? they have equal stats towards the removal? only diffrence would be that Neon also gives 100% crit to milked/pissed/wet robots.
The support pyro should melee? as an example, do you remember the wave of 100 spies in mecha? the pyro should make a bonfire next to the sentry while helping protecting the engi. while it at the same time will be able to push the bomb to either the pit behind them or just back to spawn useing 1 spy/support scout?
but its true that a pyro shouldent melee if it have the chance of useing his flamethrower! :)
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:iconapplejackforever:
applejackforever Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
i said the support pyro should NOT meele. also the homewrecker destroys sapper in one hit instead of two
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:icondearmrunicorn:
DearMrUnicorn Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
A support pyro should still camp the sentry/dispenser and keep the bomb in the spawn for as long as he can useing the airblast his standart flamethrower got, thats why Airblast Force is the first upgrade to get maxed out and then ammo.

I understod the melee part as he shouldent use his neon to remove dispensers, but I think what you ment was he shouldent go leeroooy on the robots, if thats the case I agree with you, that would give him a kick from my side.
Dident they change that about the homewrecker? im pretty sure, last time I used it I had to do a 2x hit to remove the sapper?
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:iconapplejackforever:
applejackforever Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
well i played it 12 minutes ago, so i guess they changed it XD.
it gives +100% building damage and sappers count as buildings.
thats why my record in destroying them is about 30 as pyro.
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:icondearmrunicorn:
DearMrUnicorn Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
its been a few weeks since I lasted played, but I still try to keep myself updated on things thats happens in the community, but its harder when you dont experiance them first hand, however most of my facts are true.
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:iconapplejackforever:
applejackforever Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
actually since i started playing it removed with one hit.
And i play about a year now.
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:icondearmrunicorn:
DearMrUnicorn Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
ive been in TF2 since 2009 :)
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:iconnedraxilloviara:
Nedraxilloviara Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
Pyro and Engineer are my MvM classes, this is definitely helpful and I'm also looking forward to seeing what you have to say about Engie!
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:iconzeldavoorhees:
ZeldaVoorhees Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Sir! I am very excited for your guide for Engineers! SIR! :iconsaluteplz:
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconstrictsoldierplz: Glad to hear it, private. You can expect it to come out sooner or later. :salute:
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:iconsupersaiyanheavy:
supersaiyanheavy Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013
Strict Soldier, What about your fellow Soldiers? When do you plan to do a guide on that?
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconstrictsoldierplz: Patience, private. Everybody will get trained, no matter if they like it or not!
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:iconbelanie:
Belanie Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013
Ah thank you! I've been told not to use the phlogistinator while playing Pyro, but it works so well. I feel bad that I can't airblast, but all those crits make it worth it. 
Can't wait until you do Engineer. 
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:icondearmrunicorn:
DearMrUnicorn Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
The phlog is without a doubt a very powerful weapon to use for the Pyro. However, it was recently nerfed, so its less useful now. But its still very useful to take down tanks and used for it by skilled teams.
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconstrictsoldierplz: I will give that Texan maggot a training sooner or later!
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:iconalexanderconhanger:
AlexanderConhanger Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nice, I'm sending this to one of my friends who likes to play pyro on mvm.
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconstrictsoldierplz: Spread the word, private! More greenhorns trained means less deaths on the front!
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:iconzerotolorance:
zerotolorance Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
so next is soldier or spy?
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Who knows... Maybe both of them, maybe none of them...
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:iconzerotolorance:
zerotolorance Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
you know
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:iconxluferx:
XLUFERX Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow you really help for fight in mvm!!
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconstrictsoldierplz: Of course, son! More greenhorns trained means less deaths on the front!
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:iconxluferx:
XLUFERX Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
IS BETTER THAN A TUTORIAL FROM  A PAGE OR YOUTUBE!!!
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconstrictsoldierplz: *chuckles*
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:iconkamenkewl:
kamenkewl Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013
not bad, i suppose this one of the problems i usually have playing pyro, trying to be between defense and offence, hahaa
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