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Strict Soldier's guide for MvM: Soldier (part 3) by Menaria Strict Soldier's guide for MvM: Soldier (part 3) by Menaria
Last part is here! Yup, that was pretty quick compared to other releases.
Look's like MrCrazyGuy didn't do the worst job after all!

EDIT: While digging trough rage comments on Reddit I discovered something that really required to be changed in the comic - From what I heard Direct Hit's damage can be upgraded only by 3 points instead of 4 like in any other rocket launcher. That makes this weapon completely useless, since it can't even advance in dealt damage.

Hey Reddit! I said that DH "is good but it is not" only to avoid more shitstorm from your side, since I saw a lot of people using it (but apparently this is a lose/lose business). No worries, I won't care for anybody anymore.

EDIT: Beggar's Bazooka is now as good as Stock Rocket Launcher. It's a matter of personal preferences now.

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Special thanks to:
:icontfsoldier: For fixing the script and being Strict's buddy!
:iconmrcrazyguy: For being Strict's victim!
:iconexplodingpotato: For a cool SFM trick!
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:iconbountybeast:
BountyBeast Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2015
Correction: The Rocket Jumper is the most useless weapon to use against the robots.
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nerd-with-a-pencil Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The Cow Mangler isn't such a bad MVM weapon. It lost its reload speed and damage nerfs, it CAN (contrary to popular belief) be Minicrit charged with the Buff Banner, and its infinite ammo gives you needed versatility without having to "constantly run around the battlefield to reload it."


i still have a Beggar's for when the team won't let me use my Strange CM5K.
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thelakotanoid1 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015  Hobbyist
correction about the beggars, you only dont get ammo if it's active. so that downgrade can easly be countered. and if you get reload speed upgrade and more ammo its downsides tend to be few
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BlondeFromHell Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2014  Student General Artist
Ah~ So I need to get my hands on a Disiplinary Action and Escape plan. I have the Buff Banner and can swicth to the standard rocket launcher, though I do use Liberty Launcher in the other games. 
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JohnnyHedgehog1992 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2014
I always did good with the direct hit... Shame... :C
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
That weapon has only minuses. It doesn't deal more damage than stock, because the upgrade is limited to 3 slots.
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:iconjohnnyhedgehog1992:
JohnnyHedgehog1992 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2014
I guess... Then again, it's a bitch to aim on the runner classes.
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Practice makes perfect.
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:iconjohnnyhedgehog1992:
JohnnyHedgehog1992 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2014
That's why I tended to use the DH.
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:iconsilverforfun:
Silverforfun Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2014
We need an airstrike guide
please
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:iconthattf2guy:
ThatTF2Guy Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2014
i prefer the cowmangler because i am always running out of ammo and the upgraded reload and firing speeds make a f&^kin BEAST... expacally when you upgrade damage and clip size... 12 rockets... 3-400 damage each.... hehehehehehe
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Patrikov909 Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
the stock is always was and IS the best, i myself dont need them "special weps" to kill.
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:iconredwes:
RedWes Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2014
The cow mangler can still get mini crits from the buff banner and is cheep to upgrade.
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:icondaklozeduif:
DaklozeDuif Featured By Owner Edited Jul 10, 2014
Bazooka has the best DPS now that you can gain ammo from dispensers.
It was already a RL sidegrade before, now it is the best launcher.
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jcieph3 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
As of late, I've been using the new rocket launcher (AIR Strike) and the Direct Hit.
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Warriorofricverclan Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2014
Hey,I'm a bit newer to TF2, and I love playing MvM. I really like your guides, and I was wondering if I could ask for some more advice. Soldier and Scout are my favorite classes, but I'm missing a couple of the recommended items, namely the escape plan, disciplinary action,and Mad Milk. What do you recommend I use as replacement? 
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
If you don't have a melee weapon for soldier, a stock shovel will do just fine. Those aren't important that much.
About Scout - there's no way for him to not have a Mad Milk and play MvM. You have to get one as fast as possible and if you can't, you can always borrow weapons from Mann Co store in form of a trial testing.
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leadfoot9 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014
Your comic MvM guides are very neat and pretty accurate, from what I've read so far. One comment on this one, though. Soldier is my least-played class, probably, but I've seen very experienced Soldiers top-damage with the Black Box on Two Cities, presumably because the Heavy wasn't pulling his weight and Two Cities is more about surviving spam than anything. At any rate, I figure there must be something to be said for it.
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Well you're able to deal a massive damage even with the most ridiculus-looking combo of weapons as long as you know what to do in the game.
These guides are for people that aren't that experienced.
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EricLeee Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I don't like the Beggar's like other people, because its inaccuracy gets to be a pain, and reload time often leads to a respawn screen.

But the Direct? The robots are swarming, and the extra damage works wonders. The rocket speed proves to be useful, while extra damage and small radius just makes it a tank killer.
I personally use a blast radius-upgraded Direct hit instead of the stock.

Just sayin'.
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
The Direct Hit don't deal more damage than a stock Rocket Launcher. Even if it starts with +25% more damage, it can be upgraded only 3 times.
Which results in a single-target piece of crap.

Robots are swarming? I don't get it why would you take away a Blast Radius. Even with a Rocket Specialist upgrade it's much smaller area of damaging, compared to any other RL.
Tank Killer? It don't do a better job than a Stock RL.
Want more damage in general? Carry a Buff Banner. The tons of money that you spend to max your rocket specialist and damaga could be spent on Buff Duration that not only doubles your actual damage, but also profits for your whole team.

Preferences=/= Teamplay.

Menaria over n' out.
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:iconericleee:
EricLeee Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Well, in that case, I'd better go change my loadout and see what happens.
Thanks for the advice.
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
1315170801001 by Menaria   Always on duty!
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Lemonsofliberty Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2014
Beggars Bazooka is the best mvm launcher imo, followed by stock then black box.
If you upgrade the ammo capacity on the bazooka, you can with 2 200$ upgrades load 7 rockets at a time, and if you crit boost before you unleash them you can literally wipe out entire waves of enemies with one blast. In fact, maxed out I'd say its a straight upgrade to the stock rocket
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ethosaur Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
With the recent update that allows you to collect ammo from dispensers while you holstered the beggars bazooza, makes it a excellent choice of weapon now.
Fire barrage, raise the buff flag, gather ammo while blowing the horn and repeat.
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Gwestioo77 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014
I agree.
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jepordy3 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
Surprisingly enough, the Cow Mangler *can* be boosted with the buff banner, it's my main rocket launcher, and it's never let me down.
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ThatTF2Guy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2015
same here.
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ParadoxialGamer Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
* EDIT'S LOAD OUT AGAIN*
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ZeroRM Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2014
Actually I've been able to make good use of the Direct Hit at times when we've had the right team loadout, since with upgrades it's rather effective at taking down giants and tanks (and when robots are clustered together in large groups, the lowered blast radius is not as much of a burden)
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
In fact if we will take a fully upgraded direct hit and fully upgraded stock, the stock still wins, since DH is nothing more but a default with a smaller blast radius. Even if DH starts with more damage, it can be upgraded only by 3 points.
And on wave 3 or 4 you have enough money to strike some damage upgrades into your stock.
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ZeroRM Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014
Fair enough, though I usually only use the Direct Hit when the team doesn't really NEED my help, at which point I'm just there to take some pressure off of them from tanks and some giants (the former in particular); if they DO need me, I don't usually play Soldier anyway.  The friend I mentioned in the note usually uses either the Original or the Beggar's Bazooka (if only because sometimes he likes to experiment), and does well if his team has a clue what the hell he's doing.
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iWantcoal Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Beggar's bazooka can collect ammo from dispensers after a recent update, thanks valve! It's now a spam-able and camp-able weapon!
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eightball6219 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Professional General Artist
Black Box can be very helpful especially for a medic and dispenser who are being overworked by a huge wave of robots.  If invested wisely (and if you're not a idiot with the buff banner) the black box can keep you alive much longer so the medic can focus on others who are too far away to get back to the dispenser or a health pack and as far as the small clip size just invest some into a bigger clip.  I've gone wave on the new levels where after getting through a mass of heavy bots thinking I needed to be healed now realizing I actually had a health buff from the Black Box's bonus and putting some into getting health from kills
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yttriumtyclief Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel obliged to state that the Bazooka can be good if used by the right person.

Like many weapons, all too often, it isn't.

Also the recent buff that allows to gain ammo from dispensers when not active (ex: when activating your buff banner) is pretty awesome for MvM.
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Everything might work if it's carried by an experienced and skilled person, even something like Kritz medic + Third Degree against medics. But those guides are directed to people that don't know a lot about MvM.
I don't recommend Beggars, because it's just not a suitable weapon for a person that don't really know-how as Soldier.
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yttriumtyclief Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Right-o.
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Desumo Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2014
Reddit people sure get angry, don't they
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:iconmenaria:
Menaria Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, this episode caused a really big shitstorm there.
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MonsterMan25 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
also, a note from experience on the battlefield with Strict himself, any of you sorry maggots even so much as TOUCH a rocket jumper in MvM, you will be kicked from the server so hard you'll feel like it was a Ban Hammer up your ass!
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ExplodingPotato Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Looking much better with the shadows. Nice work!
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MonsterMan25 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I will follow each and every instruction directly, SIR
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NarneyBrickman Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am very nicely surprised that someone ACTUALLY chooses a rocket launcher instead of a bazooka... that thing is like a plague these days, don't use it? Votekick on most teams. Whiiiich is why I stick by scout most of the time .-. 
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DearMrUnicorn Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014
no reason to stick to scout, its really fun to play as soldier, and the only way to get better and to not get kicked is by getting skills :) use the default a little while and you will feel like the Rocket Launcher/Original is simply a part of your body! :)
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NarneyBrickman Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's funny cause original is like the painis gun c: 

...okay I'll go sit in the corner now
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DearMrUnicorn Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014
never heard that one before... I like it ! :D but im sure you cant be that bad?
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NarneyBrickman Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Meh x3
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:icondearmrunicorn:
DearMrUnicorn Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014
care to prove me wrong? join me in a game of MvM once and ill let you be soldier.
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:iconnarneybrickman:
NarneyBrickman Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why not we can play sometime if you want ^_^ Of course when I'm not busy x3
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1337gamer15 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2014  Student Digital Artist
You should definitely make one for sniper and spy, a lotta people kick me for playing as them before they even get the chance to see how good I am at it. I usually pick them kill hard to kill classes like damn uber medics, maybe you oughta show people how they are not at all useless.
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